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Where is Windows winmfs.exe in 2016? Steps for newbie to replace Series3 HD?

March 23, 2016, 6:07 pm
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OK – I cry uncle – after following so many dead links and reading so many outdated conflicting approaches from 2007 onward, I have confused myself to point of not knowing where to start.

Can someone point me to the current 2016 instructions for how to replace a failing internal Tivo Series3 drive?

What I have:
  • a second-hand Series3 Tivo with a failing 1TB disk that I did not install
  • a new 2TB WD AV-GP 3.5 Inch, SATA II, 64 MB Cache WD20EURS disk from ___amazon.com/WD-AV-GP-Video-Hard-Drive/dp/B0042AG9V8___
  • a Windows-7 laptop (which I think is more recommended to use for this over my Mac laptop) to which I will attach two USB-to-SATA drive enclosures, one for the new WD20EURS, and the second for the old Tivo drive

What I think I need to do:
  1. Remove all the deleted shows from Tivo disk
    • Can this really be done? Conflicting reports say this is worthless since disk xfer is byte-for-byte copy
  2. Run the WD diags on new disk from PC
  3. Find a Windows version of WinMFS
    • I found ___sourceforge.net/projects/mfstools___ - but this looks to be UNIX only
    • Where do I find the latest winmfs.exe for windows?
  4. Follow the steps in __rosswalker.co.uk/tivo_upgrade/#winmfs___
    • Except skip the wdidle3 step since my WD20EURS is newer than 2013
  5. msinfo (but I do not see how this works from Windows or winmfs.exe?)
  6. mfsadd (but I do not see how this works from Windows or winmfs.exe?)
  7. Or is it MfsSuperSize?

Is this all spelled out somewhere for 2016 steps with working links? Doesn’t seem to exist.

Or is this easier done from the Mac? If yes, I’m assuming there won’t be a DMG, but are there suggested cmd-lines with switches to use from OSX xterm? Can I really run the WD diags from the Mac?

The instructions in the forum sticky at TiVo Community > Main TiVo Forums > TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs >Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ are based on the missing Windows winmfs.exe.


Any pointers would be appreciated.
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hard drive review: Toshiba MD04ACA400 4TB

April 6, 2016, 6:27 pm
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I recently upgraded my Premiere XL4 to 4TB and thought I'd write a short drive review.

What I bought is a Toshiba MD04ACA400 (4TB, 7200 RPM, 128MB cache, 6Gbps SATA). It's an OEM drive sold in bulk at MicroCenter for USD$110.
I upgraded using the MFStools v3.2 live CD, and it worked perfectly; no issues or hiccups at all. It's an advanced format drive, so I wasn't sure if that was an issue, but it is fine.

It is noisier than AV drives, but not awful in normal use. If you're sitting right in front of your TiVo, you will hear it however. The drive does not support AAM.

The drive supports Advanced Power Management and came already set at level 128, which is the lowest power level without spin-down.

One odd thing is that this drive has an activity LED. I didn't think anyone made drives with these anymore, but I forgot to check for it, and now I can see a flickering amber light out the bottom of my TiVo. If it really starts to annoy me, I'll go back in and remove the LED though.

Overall, I'd give the drive 4 stars.

PROS: Fast; inexpensive
CONS: Noisy; has activity LED.

Mfr. link:
http://toshiba.semicon-storage.com/u...d04acaxxx.html
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Move contents of Roamio drive directly onto larger drive?

April 9, 2016, 12:56 pm
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Hi - I read that you can upgrade a Roamio by just dropping in a larger drive. I also read that you can move your programs off the old drive to a PC and then after the uprgrade move them back to the new one. But I was wondering if it was easy/possible to upgrade in place. Pull the 500GB drive, move it's contents to a 2TB drive, and then put the 2TB drive into the unit. Or is this not straightforward?

Thanks!
/j
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Recommened Drives for external Bolt upgrade

April 18, 2016, 6:13 am
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I showed my sister the thread that member bpunc posted ( http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=536782 ) using a external enclosure, and she would like me to preform this mod on her Bolt.
She does not want to go over 3Tb because of the possibility of unknown issues going with a larger HD.

My question is after reading hundreds of posts related to HD upgrades I thought the consensus was that the Western Digital Red WD30EFRX or the Green WD30EURX were the better choices, and don't even spit on a purple lol.
I was also looking at reviews and it seemed that the Red units had many more issues doa, and failure than the Green AV units, I guess I'm asking is there a gold standard when it comes to a replacement drive ?

Thanks in advance to any advice :), here is a link to the drives that I was looking at.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008JJLW4M/...AGVBW7C8&psc=1

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DXFEQGI/...=IZX60UVPR2996
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Upgraded hard drive --> Tech support refused (possible new policy?)

April 20, 2016, 12:48 pm
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So, I've had upgraded drives in my S1, s2, DTV, DTV-HD150 (?), and Tivo HD. Until yesterday, that has never been an issue with Tivo customer support.

However, as described in another thread, I just got my first Roamio, which I upgraded with 6TB drive.

However, I am having having transfer issues between the new Roamio and my older S3s, and between the Roamio and a new mini. Basically, they can see each other, but refuse to transfer (or in the case of the mini, pair). I've done all of the "standard" troubleshooting (reboot, forced call, MAK check, network check, etc.).


So in troubleshooting, I called Tivo. After a few minutes of the usual basic Tivo 101 troubleshooting, he went offline. When he returned, the rep flat out told me what I have "altered" my Tivo, so there was nothing else to be done.

So, while rolling my eyes, I asked him if he would work with me if I restored the original drive. He told me unconditionally no, that because once the warranty was voided (:rolleyes:), it was no longer eligible for any support.


I realize CSRs are like playing roulette -- my concern is if he actively put something like that in the notes -- or worse when he went offline if a manager did. Or worse, if we are at the beginning of a new era with Tivo, where they start crippling features if they see non-stock devices.
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Upgrade to my current premier w adding additional one?

April 29, 2016, 7:05 pm
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I have a premier that I want to keep but since it doesn't have any streaming ability over the Internet I thought I could get a new roamio or ?? To not only be able to watch shows between units in different rooms but online. So looking for the best option to achieve that goal.
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Bolt 1 -> 4TB good for 2 weeks, now TOAST

May 5, 2016, 10:54 pm
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First off, thanks to the countless forum contributors past and present.

Documents abound and a statement that the drive I bought was not the slow potentially incompatible type.

ST4000LM016 F/W: 0003 P/N: 1N2170-567 WU

Formatted it properly with msfr, put it in no problem for two weeks. Last night she rebooted once, tonight she keeps rebooting (Gray noise, please wait, please wait.....repeat). Put the stock 1 TB back in and it works fine.

Was there a new SW download lately, anyone else having issues with Bolts >3 TB

I originally bought a 3.5 WD green AV (2TB), but I couldn't figure out how to tie the two drives together. Can someone point me to an outline on how to take my stock 1TB and mary it with an external ESATA 2TB Green AV.

TIA,
George
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Successful clone of "tired" TiVo drive to new drive. Now what?

May 8, 2016, 8:47 am
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Hey community,

I have a TiVo Premiere Elite (Ordered on launch day of the Elite) which was working fine but I had reason to believe that, after 5.5 trouble-free years, the drive was starting to get "tired" (Audio drop-outs and video breakups that were becoming more and more common).

Yesterday, using information from this forum and other bits and pieces from the internet, I successfully cloned the stock (WD20EURS) drive onto a new drive (WD20EURX).

I used ddrescue so I didn't have to do any other TiVo magic or tinkering.

Now that I have this WD20EURS drive out of the TiVo and no other plans for it -- what should I do with it before I scrap it?

1-Can I / should I extract an "image" off of it for future safekeeping, lest the hard drive I just installed fails without warning?

2-If I am imaging the drive, can I just image the "OS" -- I don't necessarily need to keep the ~1 Tb worth of shows on that drive with an image that I'm just keeping around for disaster recovery.

3-But speaking of those shows -- can I pull any shows off of the drive? I have used kmttg before but I imagine the "drive direct connected" method is a whole lot quicker!


There is a ton of info out there already but I'm having a tough time knowing what info specifically addresses my questions above. Please feel free to point me towards existing info.


Thanks!!



Reference:
success with WD20EURX-57T0FY0 man date 21 Jun 2015 in TCD652160
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Reuse 4TB Seagate Drive From Bolt Experiment Gone Bad

June 7, 2016, 7:05 pm
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I bought one of the 4TB Seagate drives and tried using it in my Bolt, but it got really flaky. I now need a new drive for my laptop so I thought I'd reuse that drive. For some reason in Windows Disk Manager sees it as two separate drives, not partitions, drives. How do I convince the system that it is actually one drive?
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Help With Tivo Bolt Hard Drive Upgrade

June 8, 2016, 3:12 am
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OK, figured it out but if you want to see how dumb I am you can read the thread.

Hi, I'm a newbie at Tivo so hopefully someone can point me in the right direction. I bought a 500gb Tivo bolt and wanted to upgrade the HD. I heard about complications and issues using a 4TB HD so I opted for at 2TB (Seagate ST20000LM003). I opened up the case, removed the original 500gb HD and put in the Seagate. I plugged in the Bolt, the Tivo opening screen came up and then nothing. My TV said there was no signal and it just sat there. I left it for half an hour and nothing happened.

A bit worried, I unplugged the Seagate and put back the original HD. The Tivo booted up and then it said "just a few more minutes." But then, it also went black with a no signal message.

Not sure what I'm doing wrong or what happened. Guides on the internet seem to make it very simple with plug and play. Concerned I tried to download MFS reformatter I thought this would work since it worked for 4TB drives. When I choose to reformat Tivo drive i get the error "This drive would have 1 media regions, which isn't supported at this time."

Any insight would be helpful. Thanks!
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Can Hard Drives Be Switched?

June 15, 2016, 8:48 am
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can a series 2 tivo hard drive be moved to a tivo HD TCD652160 ? Thanks.
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Series 3 fails to recognize WD20EZRZ - stuck with all lights on

June 24, 2016, 1:04 am
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I'm running into nothing but trouble upgrading my series 3 (premiere xl4 upgraded to 6TB without issue using WD60EZRZ).

My current issue is that the tivo fails to startup, all the lights stay on (indicating that the hard drive isn't recognized?). I can use the original drive or the dual 1TB WD10EURX setup without a problem, so it's not the power supply.

I've tried copying the original and the dual (not saving recordings), but I don't think the tivo is getting far enough to even boot from the drive. I've tried two different WD20EZRZ drives.

The drive does appear to spin up, but I can't eliminate the possibility that the drive doesn't have PUIS set. I've attempted to use the UBCD in vmware fusion to run 'HDAT2 /W', but I can't seem to get it to recognize the drive in the USB dock (tried loading all drivers, SCSI, USB, and none). I'm not sure if the issue is with fusion or the guest OS. The MFS VM has no issues with accessing the docked drives.

I had previously been successful upgrading from the original drive to a WD20EURX only to run into issues updating the channel lineup and eventually finding out the drive had a ton of bad sectors so I decided to try the newer blue line replacement (same one I used in the premiere just 2TB vs 6TB).

Is there any other way to determine the PUIS status of the drive on a Macbook or any way to configure HDAT2 running in fusion to recognize the USB controller properly?

Any other ideas as to what could be the problem?
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Offline Clone Function for HDD copy?

July 8, 2016, 9:19 am
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I recently purchased an Inateck USB 3.0 to SATA Dual-Bay USB 3.0 Hard Drive Docking Station with Offline Clone Function. (Sorry I cannot post link to the dock as I am a newbie.) Would I be able to use its offline clone function to copy my TiVo HD's drive to another drive of the same size and avoid using a computer altogether? Thanks in advance!
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Bolt faq ?

July 9, 2016, 12:10 pm
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Hello fellow Tivo lovers. I recently bought 2 new Bolts , and already got some great advise from a few members. I bought 2 drives but have not had the time to do anything due to a family member going into hospital and still in intensive.

Anyways was just wondering if there's a FAQ for the BOLt. specially what is the " safe " size for a Internal drive swap in the 2.5" size , I remember reading that 2 TB was "safe" for future updates? not loosing data would be a great for my wife's Tivo.


and what to do about a external one and formatting it & marring it?


thank you for helping a newbie in advance.
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TiVo Roamio Prom- HD Upgrade Options?

July 24, 2016, 4:37 pm
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I'm a little behind on latest development and numerous posts in this forum have last update dates of 2010 or lower so I'll ask fresh...

1) What's the largest "drop in" hard drive I can insert factory-fresh into a Roamio Pro, and have the Roamio Pro format and use the entire drive? I read some Amazon reviews that sounded like the WD80EFZX fit the bill, but I didn't see much discussion here about it. Do I need MFS reformatter to get to 8GBs, or will TiVo software handle it without?

2) Assuming I want to preserve my shows from the built-in 2TB drive to an 8TB on a Windows 10 64bit computer, which software do I use?

Thanks in advance! It should be understood, I want a solution that uses the entire drive and not just a small fraction.
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Roamio hard drive upgrade questions

August 20, 2016, 11:22 pm
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Hello, my wife is really leaning on me to upgrade our roamio. In System informaton, it says it has a capacity of 75 HD hours, or something like 506 SD hours if I remember correctly. Can anybody tell me what this translates to in GB terms?

She also wants me to preserve her shows, and I see that MFS tools 3.2 will do that. If I read that thread correctly, the procedures get trickier when the hard drive is really big, but for smaller ones, it's a simple copy command. I think for 3TB, it's that simple command. What about 4TB? are the instructions the same for that as for 3TB? (I assume that for, say, 6TB, the procedure gets more complicated.)

If the procedure is simple for 4TB, and if that is a substantial increase beyond 75 HD hours, I'm leaning on buying a 4TB drive. Assuming so, are there recommendations on what brand I should be getting? I'm not sure how standardized the physical dimensions of HDs are, so I want to make sure I get the right kind that will fit in the Roamio. Or things like power consumption, etc... what all should be I looking out for when choosing a hard drive?

BTW, I think I read that it's possible to put two drives in there, but from photos I've seen it looks to me like there's not enough physical space for that. (Not to mention heat build up problems, and power demands on the power supply). Can that really be done? I'd prefer to stick with one drive, but my wife did ask me if I install a 4 TB drive, and if down the road it gets filled up, is it possible to put a second 4 TB drive in there (for a total of 8 TB)? I'm curious what the answer to that is, but I hope she never asks me to beef it up beyond 4 TB.
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Replacing the Tivo Bolt internal HD

August 21, 2016, 4:33 pm
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Tivo forum newbie.

I have a Tivo Bolt 500GB. Bought this year. (2016)

I tried connecting an external 3TB Fantom esata drive and Bolt says it doesn't support it (formatted for NTFS), and still doesn't (formatted for MAC extended (journaling)).

So, I am planning to order a
Seagate 4TB Laptop HDD SATA 6Gb/s 128MB Cache 2.5-Inch Internal Hard Drive (ST4000LM016) from Amazon.

What steps to replace it as the internal Bolt HD? And, will it use the entire 4TB, or format it up to 2TB and quit?

Any special software needed to prepare it?

Any special hardware setup needed to test/format/??

[For testing, formatting, etc I have an iMac with latest OS X El Capitan. I also have Parallels with Win 7 Pro installed on the iMac, so I can run either Mac or Win software on it. Does that even matter?]
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Please Help...Roamio Upgrade Advise Needed

August 22, 2016, 12:41 am
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Hello Tivo Community:

I want to update the internal 500GB Seagate Hard Drive (Model St3500414CS) that was installed in my Tivo Roamio (Model: TCD846500) (4 Tuner With Cablecard). I sifted throught the hard drive upgrade suggestions on this site, and went with the WD Red 2TB NAS Drive. (Model WD20EFRX) (NASware 3.0 Date: May 03, 2016) I currently have a Windows 7 64bit PC with an available internal SATA connection.

This site says I should be able to simply drop a 3TB (and under) drive into my Tivo, and get rolling. Before I do that, I just wanted to check and make sure I didn't have to do anything to the drive prior to installation. If you guys could answer the following questions, it would put my mind at ease.

01. Do I have to use the WD SMART Load/Unload Utility (WD5741) to adjust the timing on my drive? (I'm thinking this program is an alternative to WDIDLE) If so, what should it be adjusted to?

02. Should I run a diagnostic test before, or after installing the drive in my Tivo? I want to make sure there are no bad sectors, so I'm going to use WD Data Lifeguard Diagnostics For Windows and run the extended test. My concern is that if I hook this brand new drive up to my computer, Windows 7 might take over and try to do something before I have a chance to run the WD Software.

03. Should I run the WD Diagnostic Test, or adjust the timing first? (If at all)

04. After I install the new drive into my Roamio, should I power it on with the cablecard in, or remove it and then insert it later after the setup process? I'm trying to keep it paired with my tivo...if at all possible. (Motorola Cablecard with Verizon FIOS)

Thank you in advance for all of your help. This is my first post so please bear with me. :)
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Bolt upgrade POLL

August 23, 2016, 10:43 am
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Still a newbie, but just for everyone's consideration, I'd like to point out, that not all personal backgrounds are the same and therefore, when a statement is made while you're explaining "how to" on any subject, remember that the way you state something can cause different assumptions if you're not specific enough. Not always a problem, but a wrong assumption can lead to much frustration.

OK, now for the poll.

I'd like to know which option is best for upgrading a Bolt to 3TB. Why limit it to 3 TB? Because, according to several posts, the Bolt will automatically format a 3TB drive with no additional work being necessary.
The three options are: 1. 2.5 inch FF HD replacing the original Bolt HD.
Option 2. 3.5 inch FF internal HD with external enclosure and replacing the original SATA cable.
Option 3. 3.5 in External HD and replacing the original SATA cable.

And, which mfr would be the best choice for each scenario?
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SATA or eSATA

August 30, 2016, 9:16 am
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FOr you REAL techies, what connector type do I need to connect my eSATA HD to the Bolt's mother board? SATA cable or eSATA?

The poll I posted regarding the best/preferred method of upgrading a Bolt was met with unbridled unenthusiasm. i.e. 1 vote. So, without the aid of other opinions, I punted. I tried using parts of two different upgrade methods and now have a problem.

I used a Seagate 3TB (Barracuda) drive, the Rosewill drive enclosure and ordered the Sata right angle cable mentioned in the post with the Rosewill.

However, the right angle SATA cable (Startech SATA6RA1) will not plug into the Rosewill enclosure connector. That connector must be an eSATA connector.

So, the question is this: Since the drive shipped with a eSATA cable, when I disconnect the cable to the HD in the Bolt, what cable will I need to connect to the Bolt? SATA or eSATA, or does it matter on the Bolt's motherboard?

The photo shows the two types of connectors. The top is the SATA, the lower the eSATA.

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